http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/38103/ You're going to be hearing a lot in the coming days and weeks about the ramped-up attacks on Congressman John Murtha (D-PA) for his vocal opposition to the Bush administration's actions with the Iraq war. Much of it will take the form of calling him a traitor for rightfully calling his own beloved Marine Corps -- Murtha is a former Marine -- on atrocities committed by some of our troops in Iraq. Many will use their silly "cut and run" label in a ridiculous attempt to make a highly-decorated Veteran, with 37 years of military service, seem like one of the Chickenhawks who dominate the Republican party. Some will question the medals that the U.S. military leadership awarded Murtha and -- who knows? -- I'm guessing at this very moment some photoshopping, GOP scumbag is prepping a [faked] picture of Murtha burning an American flag while attending a Gay Pride rally. Now meet Amanda Doss. She's one of those people and is about to put up a web site called Murthalied.com which, based on her known alliances with the kings of the bottom feeders, the Swift Boat Liars, will attempt to smear a fine man like John Murtha -- and other Veterans, like me, as well -- with new and improved levels of low-rent attacks. | |
NationMurtha says U.S. poses top threat to world peaceSouth Florida Sun-Sentinel | |
There is an interesting historical parallel between the Nazi occupation of France and the American occupation of Iraq. The Vichy government was installed by an occupation just as the Iraq government was. Hitler did not call for any elections in France because at that time election fraud had not become a science. Unlike Hitler: Bush who had stolen two elections in the United States did not fear the electoral process. The Iraqis who turned out to vote did not even know who they were voting for. The Vichy government in France initiated a civil war just as the faux Iraq government has. This is why Iraqis are killing Iraqis. The idea that civil war in Iraq is caused by religious differences between the Sunni and the Shiites is false propaganda used to justify continuing the American occupation. The Iraqi girl blogger said: “Just go and take your Chalabi’s and traitors with you.” There are other similarities that have the stink of fascism. There is no difference at all between Hitler’s “blitzkrieg” on Poland or the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and what Bush proudly named “shock and awe”. They were all unprovoked attacks on unprepared civilian populations by war criminals. The deliberate use of torture and “rendition” and the atrocities of killing women and children all fit the fascist plan. The open violation of human rights by the holding of 300 prisoners on Guantanamo just off the coast of Florida without a trial should horrify any decent American. The clear statement by General Miller after being sent to Iraq that he was going to “Gitmoize the Iraqi prisons would have had him sitting in the dock at the Nuremberg trials. Why are Americans tolerating this abomination? Are they like the Germans who claimed they did not know about the gas ovens? Why are American Jews accepting another holocaust for their cousins the Arabs? Have they forgotten the lesson of Germany and Pastor Neimoller who said, “When Hitler attacked the Jews I was not a Jew, therefore I was not concerned, when Hitler attacked the Catholics, I was not a Catholic, and therefore I was not concerned. And when Hitler attacked the unions, and the industrialists, I was not a member of the unions, and I was not concerned. When Hitler attacked me and the Protestant Church--there was nobody left to be concerned.” | |
ECLECTICIST : S. JIM RODRIGUEZ Posted by: SJR505 on Jun 26, 2006 9:15 AM Both parties committed errors in going and exiting in Wars...Havn'T all our so-called leaders learned that "WAR" is not the lasting and sustaining action to resolve issues between people,nations, and individuals...Bill "THe Valentino" Clinton made a profound statement when he said in a public speech recently ; "It takes us $ 100 Billion to execute a war, and it takes $ 40 Billion to feed the hungry of the wordl..." Further, President Eisehower when talking about the Military and Industrial impact to the U.S. got it right : "...every plan, tank, etc ...that is brought...robs the poor, hungry, and uneducated..." S...JIM...RODRIGUEZ+++ECLECTICIST SEEKER+++ | |
============================================ http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/38050/ Jon Stewart 'Enemy of Democracy?' .../... After all, studies show that "Daily Show viewers ages 18 to 29 scored higher than those who consumed any amount of network news, any amount of newspapers, or one to three days of cable news; young Daily Show viewers scored the same as young viewers who watched four or more days of cable news." That would seem to indicate that being the most knowledgeable about said candidates would lead to cynicism and negativity. Which would lead a competent columnist -- or an honest one -- to conclude that there's something wrong with the system, not the most accurate source for news on it. And then there's the PIPA poll showing that those who watch cable and network news had numerous misperceptions about issues surrounding the Iraq War. While newspapers fared better than TV news, nearly half of their readers still believed, incorrectly, that the world was either evenly split or was in favor of going to war with Iraq. Wanna bet Daily Show viewers knew the answer to that one? | |
Democracy? Posted by: Raj on Jun 23, 2006 2:18 PM "It was Socrates (an illuminatus) who came up with the idea of Democracy. Personally I am not sure that democracy is the best option for a society. It has always showed to fail, as it requires political involvement from the public, who is the real power. Groups of people have shown to be easily manipulated and controlled throughout history and made to believe they live in a democracy when in fact the real power has covertly changed to the favor of the politicians (or rather those who pull the strings on the politicians). The true definition of democracy is when politicians are elected and employed by the people to achieve the needs and goals of common man. The true meaning of Democracy seems to have been buried and forgotten." -- Wes Penre | |
Don't vote, it just encourages them! Posted by: peacemeow on Jun 23, 2006 4:16 PM When the political system is totally corrupt, and only an entertainment program dares expose the corruption, it's time to express opposition to the voting scam. Refusing to vote for corruption is a step toward democracy, not an abandonment of democracy. "All voting is a sort of gaming, like checkers or backgammon, with a slight moral tinge to it, a playing with right and wrong, with moral questions; and betting naturally accompanies it. The character of the voters is not staked. I cast my vote, perchance, as I think right; but I am not vitally concerned that that right should prevail. I am willing to leave it to the majority. Its obligation, therefore, never exceeds that of expediency. Even voting for the right is doing nothing for it. It is only expressing to men feebly your desire that it should prevail. A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority." -- H.D. Thoreau | |
Another exercise in missing the point Posted by: CBRoberts on Jun 24, 2006 7:00 AM Stewart's primary audience has grown up witnessing the election charade. They have no guarantee that their vote will be counted or that the vote they cast won't be changed by a programmer at Diebold. They can only remember Bushes and Clinton in the White House. They learned early that, way too often, media forcefeed the public whatever disinformation government press offices give them without doing the real work of journalism. Stewart is simply of a reflection of the cynicism that results from a "bought and paid for" political system. He is in no way the cause. | |
What's wrong? The Daily Show standards for factual reporting are on par with the industry average. Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jun 24, 2006 9:50 AM Perhaps viewers of the Daily Show should also be required to watch several hours of Disney Family programming as an antidote. That's the problem with satire, isn't it? Makes the political leaders look like the mean-spirited grasping blathering idiots that they really are? The bad guys on Disney always look like lepers, never like the selfless upstanding politicians that, sob, love us so. If you want the truth, you have to go looking for it, armed with a healthy dose of cynicism. If you want to sit back and be coddled by warm gooey Disneyland propaganda, where wars never happen and politicians never lie, well - that's your choice as well. If you recognize the problems, but you want to wait for a white knight to ride up and save you, you better realize that your "white knight" is more likely to be a KKK member [now aka GOP BAC /sez ms ] than your savior. ============================================== Support Jon Stewart! Posted by: paulpaz on Jun 26, 2006 1:23 AM Thanks Paul www.enemyofdemocracy.com | |
No Tongue, I Swear…Joe-Nertia, indeed:
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Good Morning Firepups, Just got back from the swiftboat Murtha site where I left some rabid venomous lamby love - hope lots of us pay them regular visits as I told Taylor, don’t think this will be any where near as successful as their campaign against Kerry - BUT, they need to learn early and often that it isn’t always easy being sleezy and there will be large icebergs in the swiftboat’s path www.bootmurtha.com is the address if you are so inclined o/t but reading murray waas post on the huffington post is a fabulous read. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/murray-waas/a-reporters-bias_b_23782.htm l GOODBYE AND THEN FOREVER http://apoeticjustice.blogspot.com/2006/06/goodbye-and-then-forever.ht ml And emptywheel’s last in her Plame Affair series, | |
http://www.enemyofdemocracy.com/index.php?url=archives/11-Truthiness-in-the-Washington-Post.html#feedback Jon Stewart does avoid exposing the harshest truth 20%+ of the time but at least debunks the pitiable lies of the state media, aka the cornpone that feeds the teevee toob-fed masses in the VSA Vegetative States of America. #41 (Homepage) on 2006-06-26 15:44 He has done a magnificent job of not lying about partisan stories and exposing the horrid butt-service that both 'parties' serve as a facsimile of nutrition. =========================== I'm embarrassed for the author of this article. Is he really arguing that a comedy show that makes us think more critically our politicians, electoral system, and media is bad for democracy? It's really not worth the effort I'm taking to type this, but it is important that responses, such as Mr. Paz y Miño's, remind us all why people, young and old, are feeling disheartened and like disengaging from the reality we are facing both at home and abroad. This article looks to me like a standard case of trying to kill the messenger, who is only reporting what is actually happening - he just happens to do it in a really engaging and clever manner. #4 (Homepage) on 2006-06-23 15:55 The article ends saying "Ultimately, negative perceptions of candidates could have participation implications by keeping more youth from the polls" - Notice the "could." Doesn't get more speculative than that! Could also inspire people to vote for change! Anyone have the numbers on the population of Daily Show viewers that vote, vs. the general public? ...might be interesting. =========================== Maybe it's my age, but as a 52 year old regular viewer of the Daily Show, I find the cynicism engendered by the show causes me to want to do more, not less, to change things. I've noticed the point made that if the Daily Show is doing more to make kids cynical about the political process in this country than the process itself, it's a powerful show indeed. I read the report, and could find nothing more substantive than in the Morin article as far as answering the central question of whether viewers are more or less likely to vote. I wrote Messrs Baumgartner and Morris the following: #34 on 2006-06-26 11:26 "I just read your study on the Daily Show, and was struck by what seemed to me to be a curious omission. While you show that watching the Daily Show leads to greater cynicism in the system and greater cynicism tends to lead to less participation, you don't seem to actually address the question of whether Daily Show viewers are more or less likely to get involved, which seems to be one of the points you're trying to make. I'm puzzled why you didn't just ask, as a final question, "Are you more or less likely to vote/participate in the political system?" Or did I just miss something? Otherwise the study just seems kind of pointless. Thanks~" No answer yet, but I just wrote them yesterday. ======================================== $9 Shotgun-Face SQUELCHED Gilligan's FUNERAL-GATE Outrage || AIPAC is THE Puppet-Meister [shhh!]No way to treat the dead or the living - Opinion - smh.com.au: "Back in 1999, when George War Jr. was beginning his run for the White House, SCI was embroiled in a grisly scandal known as Funeralgate. A whistleblower accused the company of 'recycling' graves. Old corpses had been removed and replaced by new ones. At two Jewish cemeteries in Florida, bodies were exhumed and dumped in the woods to be eaten by wild hogs. * | |
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